O colega de certeza que se esqueceu da palhaçada que foi quando tentaram investigar o número de vitimas dos incêndios de pedrogãoZeus disse:
Covid-19
- Iniciador de Tópicos ixnay
- Data de início
Se calhar queria dizer "de" em vez do "em".
Também pensei nisso.Ripas disse:
O que o Jesus diz não se pode levar à letra, literalmente.
Tudo o que se passou à volta de Pedrógão devia dar direito a revolta mas revolta séria... contra o governo, os autarcas, a mostrenga da ministra da altura "que ainda nem tinha ido de férias" e que tinha mudado a liderança da proteção civil meses antes da época dos fogos, contra o governo de Passos Coelho que desinvestiu em toda a merda que pode incluindo coisas que nunca poderia admitir desinvestir, contra a atrasada mental da Assunção Cristas que era ministra do planeamento de então e que estava lá para assinar de cruz, uma das mais incompetentes nulidades que passou pelo nosso país, contra tantos...Azul Invicto disse:
Somos uns mansinhos, sempre prontos a engolir uma treta.
Com redes sociais, CMTV's, Sandras Felgueiras e as outras da TVI, estar alguém sequer a imaginar que se consegue esconder mortes, teria de ser muito acéfalo.
Coloco algumas hipóteses: Jesus equivocou-se e tem as suas próprias redes sociais para esclarecer o caso; o amigo morreu agora mesmo e ainda não há atualização da DGS (atualizam os números todas as manhãs, mas julgo que as mortes deverá ser de forma distinta); há diferentes visões do que 'causou' a morte, mas sendo um infetado por COVID-19, tem de ser comunicado, mesmo que tenha falecido de AVC.
Ou então é o Jesus a ser Jesus. Mas se for isto, é uma besta.
Coloco algumas hipóteses: Jesus equivocou-se e tem as suas próprias redes sociais para esclarecer o caso; o amigo morreu agora mesmo e ainda não há atualização da DGS (atualizam os números todas as manhãs, mas julgo que as mortes deverá ser de forma distinta); há diferentes visões do que 'causou' a morte, mas sendo um infetado por COVID-19, tem de ser comunicado, mesmo que tenha falecido de AVC.
Ou então é o Jesus a ser Jesus. Mas se for isto, é uma besta.
cerca de 400ixnay disse:
Por aqui, na Suiça, falam em 950-1000 camas dizendo que é um numero que pode ser rapidamente aumentado, mas realcam que muito importante nesta crise vai ser o numero de ventiladores. Á volta de 800-850. (Logicamente as camas nao vao poder ser todas disponibilizadas para este caso)ixnay disse:
Para uma populacao de 8M5 estes numeros significam o quê? Sao razoaveis?
Essas 400 camas não estão num armazem á espera do virus. Disponíveis devem ser bem menos.ixnay disse:400?? Wtf???
Com 10000 infectados ao mesmo tempo ficamos sem camas disponíveis?
estamos na causa da europa a esse nivel, estes dados são de 2012, já li que actualmente são 7, mas não sei se é real esse numero.ixnay disse:400?? Wtf???
Com 10000 infectados ao mesmo tempo ficamos sem camas disponíveis?
É por isso que é importante conter o virus..
A romenia ser o 4 da europa a esse nivel é estranho.
Entretanto na bifalândia...
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-14/elderly-to-be-quarantined-for-four-months-in-wartime-style-mobilisation-to-combat-coronavirus/
Elderly could be quarantined for four months in 'wartime-style' mobilisation to combat coronavirus, writes Robert Peston.
People over 70 will be instructed by the government to stay in strict isolation at home or in care homes for four months, under a "wartime-style" mobilisation effort by the government likely to be enforced within the next 20 days.
It is part of a series of measures being prepared by the prime minister, health secretary, chief medical officer and chief scientific adviser to prevent the health service from "falling over" and to save lives as Covid-19 becomes an epidemic in the UK.
Other measures already being planned include:
the forced requisitioning of hotels and other buildings as temporary hospitals;
the requisitioning of private hospitals as emergency hospitals;
temporary closure of pubs, bars and restaurants - some time after next weekend's ban on mass gatherings;
emergency manufacture by several companies of respirators that would be necessary to keep alive those who become acutely ill;
the closure of schools for perhaps a few weeks, but with skeleton staff kept on to provide childcare for key workers in the NHS and police.
According to a senior government source, the perception that ministers are reluctant to make difficult and costly decisions to battle the virus is wrong. It is simply that the chief medical officer Chris Whitty and the chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance are waiting for the optimal time to force restrictions on our way of life that will be very painful.
They are deeply worried that some older people will simply die at home from neglect, after they are quarantined, so want to start the quarantine as late as possible - some time within the next five to 20 days.
The prime minister Boris Johnson and health secretary Matt Hancock are counting on neighbours and friends to rally round to make sure no one is neglected. "We are looking for a huge community effort," said a source.
The prime minister's adviser, Dominic Cummings, has also initiated conversations with Uber and Deliveroo about taking food to the old and vulnerable when they are put into forced isolation.
As I have written in previous notes, all government efforts are based on the assumptions that there won't be a vaccine within a year and that everything has to be done to protect the collapse of the health service.
What keeps ministers and officials awake at night is the fear that if the epidemic becomes too great they would have to make appalling decisions, such as that the NHS would stop treating people over a certain age, such as 65.
"Everything is aimed at making sure the NHS is not overwhelmed, to save lives and to prevent hideous choices having to be made," said a source.
Plans are also well under way for doctors to give consultations to patients quarantined at home by video links over the internet.
PS. There are two other aspects of this wartime mobilisation
1) Army hospitals will be used.
2) Lockdowns of cities or parts of cities have NOT been ruled out.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-14/elderly-to-be-quarantined-for-four-months-in-wartime-style-mobilisation-to-combat-coronavirus/
Elderly could be quarantined for four months in 'wartime-style' mobilisation to combat coronavirus, writes Robert Peston.
People over 70 will be instructed by the government to stay in strict isolation at home or in care homes for four months, under a "wartime-style" mobilisation effort by the government likely to be enforced within the next 20 days.
It is part of a series of measures being prepared by the prime minister, health secretary, chief medical officer and chief scientific adviser to prevent the health service from "falling over" and to save lives as Covid-19 becomes an epidemic in the UK.
Other measures already being planned include:
the forced requisitioning of hotels and other buildings as temporary hospitals;
the requisitioning of private hospitals as emergency hospitals;
temporary closure of pubs, bars and restaurants - some time after next weekend's ban on mass gatherings;
emergency manufacture by several companies of respirators that would be necessary to keep alive those who become acutely ill;
the closure of schools for perhaps a few weeks, but with skeleton staff kept on to provide childcare for key workers in the NHS and police.
According to a senior government source, the perception that ministers are reluctant to make difficult and costly decisions to battle the virus is wrong. It is simply that the chief medical officer Chris Whitty and the chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance are waiting for the optimal time to force restrictions on our way of life that will be very painful.
They are deeply worried that some older people will simply die at home from neglect, after they are quarantined, so want to start the quarantine as late as possible - some time within the next five to 20 days.
The prime minister Boris Johnson and health secretary Matt Hancock are counting on neighbours and friends to rally round to make sure no one is neglected. "We are looking for a huge community effort," said a source.
The prime minister's adviser, Dominic Cummings, has also initiated conversations with Uber and Deliveroo about taking food to the old and vulnerable when they are put into forced isolation.
As I have written in previous notes, all government efforts are based on the assumptions that there won't be a vaccine within a year and that everything has to be done to protect the collapse of the health service.
What keeps ministers and officials awake at night is the fear that if the epidemic becomes too great they would have to make appalling decisions, such as that the NHS would stop treating people over a certain age, such as 65.
"Everything is aimed at making sure the NHS is not overwhelmed, to save lives and to prevent hideous choices having to be made," said a source.
Plans are also well under way for doctors to give consultations to patients quarantined at home by video links over the internet.
PS. There are two other aspects of this wartime mobilisation
1) Army hospitals will be used.
2) Lockdowns of cities or parts of cities have NOT been ruled out.
pois esse é um dos problemas, um dos poucos estudos que existem sobre o nr de camas por 100mil nos cuidados intensivos não é animadorixnay disse:400?? Wtf???
Com 10000 infectados ao mesmo tempo ficamos sem camas disponíveis?
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00134-012-2627-8
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2020/03/12/the-countries-with-the-most-critical-care-beds-per-capita-infographic/#36629c907f86
estudo de 2012, não sei se melhorou ou piorou
Quero acreditar que foi um equívoco do JJ, aliás, já toda gente conhece as suas skills comunicacionais
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